Los Angeles Police Coerce Photographers off Public Sidewalk


On 5/23 around 7:30-7:45 PM, myself and 2 other photographers , one unnamed and one Branin Johnson arrived at Henry Ford Blvd and Anaheim Street (MAP) to photograph the amazingly beautiful and interesting industrial area. See the pics below.
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Here are street view pics of the bridge in both directions


We noticed as we walked along the sidewalk with our cameras that we were being followed by an obscure and suspicious looking guy in a SUV. I took some pictures in case he was casing our car or our gear, which in fact it seemed like he was doing.




Apparently He is Officer Weiss from the LAPD serial # R2676, and his license plate is 5UPK086, He parked along the street illegally blocking traffic and called us into HQ, apparently photographers who stand obviously with tripods on public sidewalks cant be trusted to exercise their constitutional rights without giving away whats freely available already on Google maps (And in better detail) to terrorists.
During our encounter we tried to engage him in conversation but he refused to acknowledge us as humans and just stood there looking like he wanted to rob us.
Shortly after being surveyed, we were converged upon by one of many police cruisers

According to the LAPD Online, Thomas Malloy was an OFFICER III in 2003. I would expect someone of this level of training to be able to cite a law when giving a lawful order, and not resort to coercion and threats based in no legality whatsoever. He denied repeated requests to offer details of ANY law we were breaking. Worse, he stated we could not record him in public audibly, and told me to stop taking pictures of him, to which I snapped a few more then stopped as he repeatedly told me to stop or he would put me away.
When asked what law I was violating other then just his bullying opinion as he has no legal expectation of privacy from a public sidewalk, he had no response but to shift weight from his gun hand to his hip. I'm actually getting very used to being "Lied" to by police officers. This is not a good thing, and its not legal. But hey, they have guns and we don't, so deal with it.
OFFICER THOMAS MALLOY, Badge # 8641(from the picture) Serial #22934

His boss SGT Chacoh serial #22030 was just as bad if not worse, he said we had to leave the city and go to another one to shoot pictures. Again, no law was given even after many many requests. I asked him if they would arrest us for not complying, he said "They were not saying that" I asked what they were saying then? He just said we had to leave the area, and if not we would get a trip to the station. I asked again what the charge would be (If any) and no answer again. I explained this is a textbook definition of coercion. They were not willing to cite any law, or talk any further about it, since the SGT had forbidden me from taking pictures of him and they told us we could not audio record them or else they would put us in jail we had no hard evidence of what they had said. I am probably going to have to legally sequester the dash-cams as evidence if I ever want to get hard evidence.
The names and serial numbers written on the card I requested are almost unreadable, and there is one extra serial serial number with no name attached to it, making me wonder if any of them are correct.
I had called the number on the card to see if I could appeal to a higher power only to be told by whomever answered the phone @ 310 726-7700 that I could be put in a federal prison for 10-15 years for taking pictures of refineries. Sounds reasonable to me !
Once again, we obeyed an un-lawful order from guys who are sworn and paid to uphold and enforce guess what: "The Law". I guess the law is whatever the MOOD dictates.
There is no evidence we've seen that shows pictures taken from night with horrible shadow detail to any correlation to past attempts at terrorism, linking hobby art photography to potential terrorism is like saying that terrorists drive cars so we should ban all cars in the city of LB and LA.
Once again, the terrorists already won guys. Is this what we want happening in our country ?
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Labels: branin johnson, david sommars, lapd cite no law, lapd coercion, los angeles port photography, no law against public photography, photographer harassment, thomas malloy coerces photographers

17 Comments:
This is out of hand, I for one will call the IG office and complain tomorrow.
-Rick
I hope you get them to look into it. This used to be the land of the free, I guess the terrorists have already won the battle on our shores if our constitution has been stripped of certain rights.
Alan
The "inredibly beautiful industrial area" you were photographing includes a hydrogen production plant..(Boom!)
Air Products
700 N Henry Ford Ave
Wilmington, CA 90744
The bridge in the pictures is the primary rail car crossing (which transports the cargo including fuel tank cars into and out of the harbor)in the area and the refinery in the background is a HUGE fuel and chemical processing,storage and pumping station. Can you honestly say that you wish nobody would question why you might be documenting such areas which are all considered sensitive locations in regards to terrorist acts? Yes these areas can all be viewed with satellite maps,however a tripod and long lens allow for finite details to be captured and examined for physical vulnerability and to calculate resources needed for it's destruction should the viewer be looking for it. According to the postings for the photographer rights rally you attended,you were specifically and intentionally attempting to draw law enforcement contact, which you succeeded at, so why would you act like you are shocked by what you created? Photography in public is absolutely legal however you also need to bear responsibility for your own actions if you want to be respected for your artwork and craft. Lastly, I wasn't there but it would be logical to assume if you were as obstinant and pigheaded in person as you are in writing then you were probably treated accordingly. If the roles were reversed would you have the restraint and discipline to take the snide remarks,criticism, monday morning quarterbacking and verbal abuse that those same officers take every day they work from overindulged citizens such as yourselves? I doubt it.
Ian,
Thanks for the info, I never would have known the damage that could be done there until you told me, thanks !
Wouldn't you agree beauty is in the eye of the beholder ?
if you looked at my galleries here, or on flickr, you can easily see I've been shooting 80% of my art in this area for the last 2 years.
http://uniq.smugmug.com/Art
http://www.flickr.com/photos/uniqimage/sets/72157603520023479/
On the
as the article states, I have no problems with questioning, but insisting we leave is not legal.
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"however a tripod and long lens allow for finite details to be captured and examined for physical vulnerability and to calculate resources needed for it's destruction should the viewer be looking for it."
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actually you would be right if it were daytime, but since it was night(only time I shoot for art) , we have no shadow detail whatsoever.You can easily see daytime birds eye views from Microsoft earth.
Im not shocked at all by LE contact, I've never said anything of that sort, and I challenge you to show me where I have, To the opposite, Ive always said contact is fine, being told to leave public sidewalk is NOT,
i have to ask, did you even read my entire post, or did you come here from the NPRA site and just respond to my post without reading it ?
Your last paragraph sounds like its intended for someone else, as I never wrote any verbal abuse towards LE, maybe your again thinking of a Photog Rights site out there somewhere, please dont group me in with your complaints about its posts, I didn't write them. I've never been anything but polite with LE and I resent your sentiment, again as you admitted, "you were not there. "
I really want to thank Mr.Sommar for reveiling to the world photographs that can be used against us by terrorist. For one to think that there are no terrorist here in so cal, better think again. I dont appreciate Mr. Sommars for adding fuel to the fire of terrorism. Yes, I do agree with Nancy in that he is full of lies and giving disinformation regarding taking photographs only during the night. The photograph of the officer in the SUV was early taken during the day. I don’t believe one bit that the officers did anything wrong other then to identify you and your merry clan of radicals, after all the PATRIOT ACT is in force.
Really ? Just wow anonymous.
Posting pictures of something that is already clearly visible in full detail on Google maps and Microsoft Earth is adding fuel to the fire of terrorism??? Wow, you must hate Thomas bros, Microsoft, and Google for adding to the fire too. I'm surprised you can leave your house without a tin-foil hat. LOL , In fact you should boycott the entire internet for having maps in the first place...Just Wow.
For the 3rd time, I have no problems with questioning, but insisting we leave is not legal.
Yes I posted shots in the blog that were taken at dusk, we were getting ready for the night shots Einstein. LOL . When the creepy officer stalked us , we took pictures of that.
There is also one or 2 shots I posted of the train area that was dusk, Its only to document the occasion as we were being Run Off before it was completely dark.
look through my gallery on davidsommars.com and show me a daytime shot out of like 200 shots in 3 galleries there isn't ONE.
Anonymous posted :
"I don’t believe one bit that the officers did anything wrong other then to identify you and your merry clan of radicals, after all the PATRIOT ACT is in force."
Did you even read the article? They did not just identify us, they ran us off the sidewalk, stopped us from taking pictures, they told us not to do things that were clearly legal to do. Thats the whole point, nobody is complaining about their being there, its the ILLEGAL stuff we don't appreciate. You should probably read things all the way through before you comment.
Since when has a terrorist ever hit any target that wasn't in a populated area. I know exactly where you were taking pictures at and there isn't a residence within a half a mile to a mile of the place. Besides, that terrorists usually strike places that are crowded, and are of some economic consequence to those whom they strike. I work in law enforcement,and I can tell you this, cops making contact with you is fine, but the empty threats they made were wrong.
The security officer that initiated the whole thing should have stayed on the property that she is paid to patrol. I'm sorry this happened to you, and I can tell you there are a lot of officers out there who react on paranoia and ignorance of the law instead of understanding and tolerance.
The officer at the station you spoke to on the phone should never told you how much time someone would have gotten for a crime as they are paid to enforce the law not administrate it.
Finally the last comment was thought out, looks like he actually read your article before posting.
I am a LEO, and I would definitely stop and find out what you are doing there, but your website, pictures and explanation would have been more then enough for a LAW abiding LEO to leave without PC or suspicion of anything besides ART LOL....
I find it funny that the anonymous comments also couldnt read your article fully, or even spell your name right. I mean its only right there in front of them, maybe the LEO's involved googled their names and put their spouses up to doing it.
Anyways good job standing up to your rights,
Next time record the whole thing in audio.
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